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  • Deray Mckesson v. Jeanine Pirro, Fox News Network, LlcTorts - Other (Defamation) document preview
  • Deray Mckesson v. Jeanine Pirro, Fox News Network, LlcTorts - Other (Defamation) document preview
  • Deray Mckesson v. Jeanine Pirro, Fox News Network, LlcTorts - Other (Defamation) document preview
  • Deray Mckesson v. Jeanine Pirro, Fox News Network, LlcTorts - Other (Defamation) document preview
						
                                

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FILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 04/20/2018 11:10 PM INDEX NO. 160992/2017 NYSCEF DOC. NO. 35 RECEIVED NYSCEF: 04/20/2018 SUPREME COURT OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK COUNTY OF NEW YORK DERAY MCKESSON, Plaintiff, v. Index No. 160992-17 Motion 001 JEANINE PIRRO and FOX NEWS NETWORK, LLC Defendants. MEMORANDUM OF LAW IN OPPOSITION TO DEFENDANTS' MOTION TO DISMISS THE BOUTIQUE FIRM PLC Matthew D. Melewski 32 Fryer Lane Altamont, NY 12009 (612) 999-8600 matthew@theboutiquefirm.com Counsel for Plaintiff DeRay Mckesson 1 of 29 FILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 04/20/2018 11:10 PM INDEX NO. 160992/2017 NYSCEF DOC. NO. 35 RECEIVED NYSCEF: 04/20/2018 TABLEOF CONTENTS Page INTRODUCTION...........................................................................................................................1 ' ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ FACTUAL BACKGROUND .........................................................................................................1 LEGAL STANDARD .....................................................................................................................7 ARGUMENT ..................................................................................................................................8 I. MS. PIRRO'S STATEMENTS WERE REASONABLY SUSCEPTIBLE OF A DEFAMATORY CONNOTATION...................................................................................9 ................................................................................... A. Pirro's Statements Conveyed Defamatory Facts About Mr. Mckesson .......................10 1. Ms. Pirro Used Precise Language Capable of Being Proven True or False ...........11 2. Ms. Pirro Signaled That Her Statements Were Not Opinions By Describing the Statements as "The Facts."..............................................................................14 3. Pirro Implied the Existence of Undisclosed Facts ..................................................15 B. Numerous Reasonable Viewers Believed the Statements Conveyed Defamatory Facts About the Plaintiff...............................................................................................15 II. MR. MCKESSON HAS ADEQUATELY ALLEGED THAT PIRRO'S STATEMENTS WERE MADE WITH ACTUAL MALICE...........................................16 ...........................................16 A. Defendants Have Not Demonstrated that Mr. Mckesson is a Limited Purpose Public Figure.................................................................................................................16 .................................................................................................................16 B. Even If He Is a Public Figure, Pirro's Statements Were Clearly Made with Reckless Disregard of Whether They Were False or Not.............................................17 "Report" 1. Ms. Pirro Was Appearing on Fox & Friends to Ostensibly A Federal Court Decision That Refuted Her Claims..................................................17 ..................................................17 2. Ms. Pirro Omitted That Judge Brian Jackson Had Found No Basis for Allegations of Violence Against Mckesson............................................................18 III. NEW YORK CIVIL RIGHTS LAW § 74 PROVIDES NO PROTECTION AS A MATTER OF LAW ..........................................................................................................19 A. Ms. Pirro's Statements Were Not Substantially Accurate Reports...............................19 B. Pirro's Statements Suggested More Serious Conduct Than That Actually Suggested in the Judicial Proceeding............................................................................21 . 1 2 of 29 FILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 04/20/2018 11:10 PM INDEX NO. 160992/2017 NYSCEF DOC. NO. 35 RECEIVED NYSCEF: 04/20/2018 C. Ms. Pirro's Statements Produced a Different Effect on the Mind of the Viewer the Actual ..........................................................................................22 Proceeding..........................................................................................22 D. Section 74 of the New York Civil Rights Law Does Not Apply to Slander.................23 CONCLUSION.......................................................................................................................24 D~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ .. 11 3 of 29 FILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 04/20/2018 11:10 PM INDEX NO. 160992/2017 NYSCEF DOC. NO. 35 RECEIVED NYSCEF: 04/20/2018 TABLE OF AUTHORITIES Page(s) CASES Armstrong v. Simon die Shuster, 85 N.Y.2d 373, 379 (N.Y. 9 1995)..............................................7, ..............................................7, Celle v. Filipino Reporter Enterprises Inc.,,20.9 209 F.3d 163, 183 (2d Cir. 2000)............................17 ............................17 Corp. Training Unlimited, Inc. v. Nat'l Broad. Co., 868 F. Supp. 501, 507 (E.D.N.Y. 1994) .......9 Daniel Goldreyer, Ltd. v. Van de Wetering, 630 N.Y.S.2d 18, 23 (1st Dep't 1995) ....................21 Davis v. Boeheim, 24 N.Y.3d 262, 268 (N.Y. 10 2014).............................................................7, 9, .............................................................7, Davis v. Ross, 754 F.2d 80, 83 (2d Cir. 1985) ................................................................................9 DeRay Mckesson et al.v. City of Baton Rouge et al., No. 3:16-cv-520-JWD-EWD......................2 Dibble v. WROC TV Channel 8, 530 N.Y.S.2d 388, 389 (4th Dep't 22 1988)............................19, ............................19, Dimond v. Time Warner, Inc.,,989 989 N.Y.S.2d 727, 728 (4th Dep't 2014)......................................24 ......................................24 Y' Farrell v. N.Y. Evening Post, .Post, 3 N.Y.S.2d 1018, 1022 (Sup. Ct., N.Y. Cnty. 1938) .....................24 Fontanetta v. Doe, 898 N.Y.S.2d 569, 573 (2d Dep't 2010) ..........................................................8 8 Greenberg v. Spitzer, 62 N.Y.S.3d 372, 385 (2d Dep't 2017)........................................................7 ........................................................7 Gross v. New York Times Co., 82 N.Y.2d 146, 152 (N.Y. 1993)..................................9, 10, 13, 15 GS Plasticos Limitada v. Bureau Veritas, 922 N.Y.S.2d 365, 367 (2011) ...................................19 Guerrero v. Carva, 779 N.Y.S.2d 12, 18 (1st Dep't 2004)...........................................................15 ...........................................................15 Hutchinson v. Proxmire, 443 U.S. 111, 120 n. 9 (1979)...............................................................17 ...............................................................17 Karedes v. Ackerley Grp., Inc., 423 F.3d 107, 119 (2d Cir. 2005) 21 .........................................19, Krauss v. Globe Int'l,Inc., 674 N.Y.S.2d 662, 664 (1st Dep't 1998) ...........................................16 16 Lasky v. American Broadcasting Companies, Inc., 631 ,631 F.Supp. 962, .962, 970 (S.D.N.Y.1986)...........9 ...........9 Lee v. Brooklyn Union Publ'g Co., 209 N.Y. 245, 248 (1913) .....................................................24 Leon v. 84 N.Y.2d — 87-88 (N.Y. 8 Martinez, 83, ..................................................................7, 1994)..................................................................7, Long v. Marubeni Am. Corp., 406 F.Supp.2d 285, 296-97 (S.D.N.Y. 2005) ...............................15 ... 111 4 of 29 FILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 04/20/2018 11:10 PM INDEX NO. 160992/2017 NYSCEF DOC. NO. 35 RECEIVED NYSCEF: 04/20/2018 NAACP v. Claiborne Hardware Co., 458 U.S. 886, 927 (1982).....................................................3 New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, 376 U.S. 254, 280 (1964)..........................................................16 November v. Time, Inc., 244 N.Y.S.2d 309, 311-312 (N.Y. 1963).................................................9 .................................................9 Obi v. Amoa, 63 N.Y.S.3d 208, 228 (N.Y. Sup. Ct. 2017)............................................................17 Ocean State Seafood, Inc. v. Capital Newspaper, Div. of Hearst Corp., 492 N.Y.S.2d 175, 179 (3d Dep't 22 .............................................................................21, 1985).............................................................................21, Officer John Doe Police Officer v. DeRay Mckesson et al., No. 3:16-cV-742 (M.D. ........................................................................................................2 La.)........................................................................................................2 Pisani v. Staten Island Univ. 440 F. Supp. 2d — 176-77 (E.D.N.Y. 21 Hosp., 168, 2006).............15, Rebozo v. Washington Post Co., 637 F.2d 375, 382 (5th Cir. 1981).............................................18 Russo v. 446 N.Y.S.2d — 646-47 (4th Dep't 22 Padovano, 645, ....................................10, 1981)....................................10, 21, Silsdorf v. Levine, 59 N.Y. 2d 8, 12 (N.Y. 9 ........................................................................7, 1983)........................................................................7, Smith v. Montefiore Med. Ctr., 984 N.Y.S.2d 50, 51 (1st Dep't 2014).........................................17 Stanwick v. Meloni, 551 N.Y.S.2d 106, 107 (4th Dep't 1990)......................................................17 Thomas H. v. Paul B., 18 N.Y.3d 580, 584 (N.Y. 12 2012).....................................................9, 10, Vengroff v. Coyle, 647 .N.Y.S.2d N.Y.S.2d 530 (2d Dep't 1996)................................................................19 ................................................................19 Zervos v. Trump, No. 150522-17, 2018 WL 1404883, at *6 (N.Y. Sup. Ct. Mar. 20, 2018).....................................................................................................9 .....................................................................................................9 STATUTES N.Y. ~ ~ C.P.L.R. ~ ~ ~ ~ 3026 .........................................................................................................................7 N.Y. .Y. C.P.L.R. 3211(a)(1)................................................................................................................8 ................................................................................................................8 N.Y. .Y. C.P.L.R. 3211(a)(7)................................................................................................................7 ................................................................................................................7 ~ ~ N.Y. .Y. Civil Rights Law § 24 74.........................................................................................19, 21, 23, . 1V 5 of 29 FILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 04/20/2018 11:10 PM INDEX NO. 160992/2017 NYSCEF DOC. NO. 35 RECEIVED NYSCEF: 04/20/2018 INTRODUCTION On September 29, 2017, Defendant Pirro told approximately 1.7 million people that Plaintiff Mckesson directed someone to hit a police officer in the face with a rock. Twice. She facts," said these and other falsehoods were "the despite knowing that a federal judge had found no basis for her claims. Ms. Pirro's statements were - to put it - susceptible mildly reasonably Defendants' of a defamatory connotation, which is allMr. Mckesson needs to show to prevail on motion to dismiss. Defendants' arguments are unavailing and must fail as a matter of law. On the one hand, facts" they assert that any reasonable viewer would conclude that "the Pirro recited were actually opinions." her "pure On the other hand, Defendants incongruously assert that any reasonable facts" true" viewer would conclude that "the were actually a "fair and report of a judicial proceeding. Finally, Defendants assert that there is no reason to think Ms. Pirro knew the claims "reporting" were false, despite arguing that Ms. Pirro was a judicial decision that refuted those very claims. In effect, Defendants argue that false and defamatory statements are permissible so long as they are contradicted by a contemporaneous federal judicial decision. The question for the Court is simply whether a reasonable juror could conclude that the statements were defamatory. Because a reasonable juror could so conclude, the Court must deny the Motion to Dismiss. FACTUALBACKGROUND After Alton Sterling was shot and killed by Baton Rouge Police Officers on July 5, 2016 - the act captured on video a bystander - the U.S. Department of Justice harrowing by immediately opened a civil rights investigation. See Alton Sterling Shooting in Baton Rouge Prompts Justice Dept. Investigation, N.Y. Times (July 6, 2016), https://goo.gl/9a3xUP (a copy of the article is attached as Exhibit A to the Affirmation of Matthew D. Melewski in Support of I 6 of 29 FILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 04/20/2018 11:10 PM INDEX NO. 160992/2017 NYSCEF DOC. NO. 35 RECEIVED NYSCEF: 04/20/2018 Ex.").1 Motion to Dismiss) (hereinafter "Melewski Aff. Ex."). At the same time, hundreds of people began protesting what they perceived as the Baton Rouge Police Department's unnecessary and inappropriate use of force. See Complaint, Mckesson v. Pirro, et al., Index No. 160992-17 ¶ 16 (N.Y. Sup. Ct. Aug. 20, 2015) (Doc. 1). Mr. Mckesson was among them. Id. On July 9, 2016, Mr. Mckesson was arrested while peaceably protesting and was briefly incarcerated. Compl. ¶ 17. The East Baton Rouge District Attorney subsequently dismissed all charges against him. Id. At some point during the otherwise peaceable protests, a police officer was hit in the face with a rock, causing significant injuries. Id. ¶ 19. Two lawsuits followed. First, along with approximately 185 other persons arrested during the protest, Mr. Mckesson sued the Baton Rouge Police Department and responsible government officials for their wrongful arrest. See Mckesson et al. v. Baton Rouge et No. 3:16-cv-520- DeRay City of al., JWD-EWD; Exhibit C to Affirmation of Dori Hanswirth ("Hanswirth Aff. Ex.") (Doc. 9). In August 2017, the Police Department and other Defendants agreed to settle the case, expunge the charges, and pay $500 to $1,000 to each class member who was in custody. See Memorandum in Support or Motion for Final Approval of Class Action Settlement, DeRay Mckesson et al. v. City of Baton Rouge et al., No. 3:16-cv-520 (M.D. La. August 22, 2017), at 9-10; Hanswirth Aff Ex. D (Doc. 10). The parties estimated that total payments to the class members, including the $46,600." return of cash bonds and reimbursement of bonds fees "will be about Id. at 10. Second, the injured police officer anonymously sued Mr. Mckesson and the social Matter" movement "Black Lives for negligence. See Officer John Doe Police Officer v. DeRay Mckesson et al., No. 3:16-cv-742 (M.D. La.); Hanswirth Aff Ex. F (Doc. 12). The officer later "#blacklivesmatter" attempted to add the hashtag and Black Lives Matter, Inc. as named 1 publications." "The Court may take judicial notice of newspaper Grebow v. City of New York, 661 N.Y.S.2d 441, 479 (Sup. Ct., N.Y. Cty 1997) (citing N.Y. C.P.L.R. 4511(d)). 7 of 29 FILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 04/20/2018 11:10 PM INDEX NO. 160992/2017 NYSCEF DOC. NO. 35 RECEIVED NYSCEF: 04/20/2018 Defendants. See Amended Complaint for Damages for Officer Hit in the Face with Rock, Officer John Doe Police Officer v. DeRay Mckesson et al., No. 3:16-cv-742 (M.D. La. June 18, 2017); Hanswirth Aff Ex. G (Doc. 13). Mr. Mckesson moved to dismiss the complaint on Matter" multiple grounds, including that "Black Lives is not a juridical entity capable of being sued. See Memorandum In Support Of Defendant DeRay Mckesson's Motion To Dismiss, Officer John Doe Police Officer v. DeRay Mckesson et al., No. 3:16-cv-742 (M.D. La. Jan. 25, 2017) (Melewski Aff. Ex. B); Defendant DeRay Mckesson's Motion To Dismiss Pursuant To Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 9(a), Officer John Doe Police Officer v. DeRay Mckesson et al., No. 3:16-cv-742 (M.D. La. April 7, 2017) (Melewski Aff. Ex. C). On September 28, 2017, U.S. District Court Judge Brian Jackson dismissed the suit Matter." against Mr. Mckesson and "Black Lives See Ruling and Order, Officer John Doe Police Officer v. DeRay Mckesson et al., No. 3:16-cv-742 (M.D. La. Sept. 28, 2017); Hanswirth Aff. Ex. H (Doc. 19). The Court's discussion began: "The Court finds that Plaintiffs Complaint suffers from numerous deficiencies; namely, the Complaint fails to state a plausible claim for relief against Mckesson and itnames as a Defendant a social movement that lacks the sued." capacity to be Id. at 5. The Court later explained the complaint's inadequate negligence claim against Mr. Mckesson: "In order to state a claim against Mckesson to hold him liable for the tortious act of another with whom he was associating during the demonstration, Plaintiff would have to allege facts that tend to demonstrate that Mckesson 'authorized, activity.'" directed or ratified specific tortious Id. at 8 (quoting NAACP v. Claiborne Hardware Co., 458 U.S. 886, 927 (1982)). The Court concluded that the Plaintiff had not pled such facts and thus had failed to state a cause of action against Mr. Mckesson. Id. at 8-9. 8 of 29 FILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 04/20/2018 11:10 PM INDEX NO. 160992/2017 NYSCEF DOC. NO. 35 RECEIVED NYSCEF: 04/20/2018 Numerous news outlets covered the judges decision. National Public Radio wrote that "As for Mckesson, Jackson writes that he was exercising his constitutional right to association violence." and protected speech in the protest and there is no evidence that he incited See Melewski Aff. Ex. D. CNN summarized the case as follows: "The injured officer said Mckesson and Black Lives Matter were liable for his injuries because they were negligent and should have known the protests would turn to riots and become violent. Mckesson was exercising his constitutional right to demonstrate, the judge ruled, and he cannot be held liable for the conduct of protesters." other hadn' See Melewski Aff. Ex. E. The Washington Post wrote "The judge added that the officer hadn't speech.' cited any evidence showing that Mckesson 'exceeded the bounds of protected Beyond others' wrote." that, Mckesson couldn't be held liable for actions, he See Melewski Aff. Ex. F. Friends" The following day, September 29, 2017, the Fox News talk show "Fox & brought Defendant Pirro on to address the dismissal of the suit. One of the hosts of "Fox & Friends," Steve Doocy, introduced Defendant Pirro and the topic: STEVE DOOCY: Joining us right now, host of Justice, Judge Jeanine Pirro. Judge lets talk a littlebit about how a police officer anonymously sued Black Lives Matter because he was at a demonstration where he was injured by somebody threw a rock or a bottle or something like that, and now a judge has come out and made itvery clear you can't sue Black Lives Matter. Why? JEANINE PIRRO: Right. The Judge says you can't sue Black Lives Matter because it's an organization like the Civil Rights Movement; like the Tea Party, it doesn't have a itdoesn't have bylaws - - governing body, STEVE DOOCY: Too general? JEANINE PIRRO: - - itdoesn't have - - it's too it'stoo amorphous. yeah, much, And yet the Plaintiff in this case said look, these people have meetings, they, it's an unincorporated association; they have national chapters, they solicit money. Hanswirth Aff. Ex. J at 2:7-25. At this point, Defendant Pirro changed the tone of her voice, changed the topic from the discussion of capacity to be sued, and began repeatedly slandering Mr. Mckesson, 9 of 29 FILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 04/20/2018 11:10 PM INDEX NO. 160992/2017 NYSCEF DOC. NO. 35 RECEIVED NYSCEF: 04/20/2018 mischaracterizing the lawsuits at issue, and impugning the integrity of federal judge Brian Jackson: JEANINE PIRRO: And in this particular case, DeRay Mckesson, the organizer, was was the - - actually directing people, directing violence, directing STEVE DOOCY: So can you sue him? JEANINE PIRRO: Yeah, you can sue him. But guess what, the judge said, you know what, he was engaging in protected free speech. Now I want you to guess who appointed this federal judge. BRIAN KILMAEDE: Ronald Reagan? JEANINE PIRRO: No BRIAN KILMAEDE: Didn't think so JEANINE PIRRO: Barack Obama. And you know what the amazing part of this is that Mckesson and several - - I think itsabout 90 of the people who DeRay were - - protesting Hanswirth Aff. Ex. J at 2:25-3:15; Hanswirth Aff. Ex. K. at 1:01. As Pirro was speaking, Defendant Fox News Network displayed a picture of federal judge Brian Jackson. Hanswirth Aff. Ex. K. at 1:34. JEANINE PIRRO: There is the federal judge right there - - got a hundred actually thousand dollars from the City of Baton Rouge because Baton Rouge they said was offensive to them and - - the police were militarized and although very they no one was injured, STEVE DOOCY: Uh — huh -huh JEANINE PIRRO: they feltthat their civil rights were violated. What is wrong with this country today? The problem is when you have federal judges who make decisions - - Activist?2 STEVE DOOCY: Activist? 2 "Activists," The transcript attached as Hanswirth Aff. Ex. J reads but the word appears "Activist," to be singular. 10 of 29 FILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 04/20/2018 11:10 PM INDEX NO. 160992/2017 NYSCEF DOC. NO. 35 RECEIVED NYSCEF: 04/20/2018 - - - - facts.3 JEANINE PIRRO: based on politics activist judges and not on the facts. You' You've got a police officer who was injured, he was injured at the direction of DeRay Mckesson, DeRay Mckesson walks away with a hundred thousand dollars, for an organization that is amorphous, we got a problem in this country. Hanswirth Aff. Ex. J at 3:15-4:7. Pirro's statements about Mr. Mckesson were the subject of numerous articles in a variety of publications, many of which understood Ms. Pirro's statements as defamatory. The Friends,' WashingtonPost published an articletitled "On 'Fox & Jeanine Pirro slanders Black Mckesson." Lives Matter's DeRay See Melewski Aff. Ex. G. Rawstory, an online news organization, introduced an article on the matter: "Judge Jeanine Pirro, took to Fox & Friends on violence' Friday to defame anti-racist activist DeRay McKesson for 'directing at protests in the year." wake of the police-involved death of Alton Sterling last See Melewski Aff. Ex. H. Another online news source,VerifiedPolitics, ran an article with the headline: "Judge Jeanine Lie." Just Got Caught In A Racist See Melewski Aff. Ex. I. CounterCurrentNews started their story: "Judge Jeanine Pirro went on Fox & Friends Friday to defame anti-racist activist DeRay violence' McKesson for 'directing at protests in the wake of the police-involved death of Alton year." Sterling last See Melewski Aff. Ex. J. The news websiteUpprox wrote that Pirro "falsely protest." claimed on air that Mckesson was directing the violence at the See Melewski Aff. Ex. K. In response to inquiries, Defendants Pirro and Fox News released the following statement to multiple news outlets: "Based on 32 years in law enforcement, you can only be found not guilty after a trial.McKesson was not tried. I was quoting paragraph 17 and 19 from court documents." See,e.g., Melewski Aff. Ex. G. 3 fact," The transcript attached as Hanswirth Aff. Ex. J reads "the but the phrase appears facts," to be "the plural. Defendants refuse to repeat this section of Ms. Pirro's statement anywhere in their pleading. See Def. Mem.passim. 11 of 29 FILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 04/20/2018 11:10 PM INDEX NO. 160992/2017 NYSCEF DOC. NO. 35 RECEIVED NYSCEF: 04/20/2018 On October 27, 2017, counsel for Mr. Mckesson sent a letter to Defendants Pirro and Fox News, demanding the Pirro formally retract her statements about Mr. Mckesson and cease making defamatory statements about Mr. Mckesson. See Melewski Aff. Ex. L. The letter explained that if a retraction was not forthcoming, Mr. Mckesson would bring a lawsuit seeking monetary damages. Id. The same day, the class action settlement between the protestors and the Baton Rouge defendants was approved by the Court. See Hanswirth Aff Ex. E (Doc. 11). On November 10, 2017, counsel for Fox News responded to the from Mr. Mckesson's counsel, refusing to issue a retraction on the grounds that Ms. Pirro was both reporting the case and offering her opinion. See Melewski Aff. Ex. M. Mr. Mckesson brought suit against 2017.4 Defendants Pirro and Fox News on December 12, 2017. LEGAL STANDARD On a motion to dismiss pursuant to N.Y. C.P.L.R. 3211(a)(7), the Court must accept the facts as alleged in the complaint as true, accord plaintiffs the benefit of every possible favorable inference, and limit the inquiry to the legal sufficiency of plaintiff s claim. Davis v. Boeheim, 24 N.Y.3d 262, 268 (N.Y. 2014); Silsdorf v. Levine, 59 N.Y. 2d 8, 12 (N.Y.